Mixedness
& mixing

New perspectives on mixed-race Britons

A CRE eConference · 4-6 September 2007

Forum: Day 2, Interaction
  
  
Towards an integrated utopia?
Posted on: 05/09/2007 00:55:00
Posted by: Hamish Macpherson
Will more mixing and mixed people aid social integration or is this naïve? Can mixed–race people be in the vanguard of integration if they still sometimes appear not to be 'accepted' by other ethnic groups?

        
Re:Towards an integrated utopia?
Posted on: 05/09/2007 02:25:00
Posted by: Wildcard User2
in The States, new racial divisions are forming: Mulatos [Black/White] and Hapas [Asian/other] are increasingly dividing, hence continuing & updating the vicious legacy of u.s. racism; as Mulatos continue to decondition ourselves from Black Supremacy.

-Kahlil

                
Re:Re:Towards an integrated utopia?
Posted on: 05/09/2007 08:14:00
Posted by: Hello999
Hi All, I registered yesterday and finally got my password emailed to me today. I think it is very important for everyone- regardless of race to analyse their own interactions. Unfortunately, the use of irrational stereotypes are particularly dangerous and common in social discourse. Many individuals base their impressions of others (and themselves) on television programmes, movies etc. Frequently, these images are also [i]created[/i] with irrational stereotypes in mind- a vicious cycle.

For example, the mixed race or black academic which commonly exists in reality is not usually represented in mass media images. The "black mama" or "gangsta" is. When this is compared to media stereotypes for Asian women and men for example, quite a different picture is usually represented. Of course, as with other stereotypes there are exceptions to the rule.

Stereotyping is a fundamental aspect of racial prejudice. I think we need to examine what stereotypes we all have and use in our interactions.

        
Re:Towards an integrated utopia?
Posted on: 05/09/2007 08:58:00
Posted by: Bob Macintosh
Yes indeed. it is all stereotypes, positive or negative. 'Mixing' is only mixing stereotypes, and all that results is a stereotype 'mixed'. Nothing changes until we look at how we ourselves think and behave around 'race. It is unfortunate that it is impossible for anyone in any public position even to admit to having stereotypes and prejudices; if we cannot mention them, how can we ever confront and challenge them? But it always has to be some other, preferably uneducated group that is 'racist' - or else an 'institution'.

                
Re:Re:Towards an integrated utopia?
Posted on: 05/09/2007 09:20:00
Posted by: Hello999
Confronting the stereotypes you have in your thinking is difficult. I came across the disturbing website below. It shows some of the older "Jim Crow" racist caricatures used in the media. Disconcertingly, we are all familiar with them. We have all watched television since we were young children so it is not surprising that we recognise these caricatures. What is more dangerous however, is that we allow ourselves to allow these images to influence our interactions and the actions of policy makers. Here is the link:
http://www.ferris.edu/htmls/news/jimcrow/menu.htm

                        
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Posted on: 05/09/2007 10:40:00
Posted by: Isabel Adonis
Yes. it is very difficult, but it gets easier when you allow it to happen. We are brought up in a society where the road signs are always pointing the wrong way - towards knowledge as authority and not self knowledge which is the true basis for reality. I have been on the site you mention before and there is some interesting stuff there.
best Isabel

                        
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Posted on: 05/09/2007 10:44:00
Posted by: Wildcard user
We really do seem to be in a unique time, where technology, communication, and globalisation is forcing the western world into confronting stereotypes everyday. but as mentioned, it is very hard to admit one holds these stereotypes, because it will so often imply that a person is racist, sexist, homophobic etc. it seems to me that it goes to the very core of how human society functions. after all, how do we put aside all our stereotypes, without losing all the useful messages contained within them?
toby lb

                                
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Posted on: 05/09/2007 10:53:00
Posted by: Isabel Adonis
Society has made words and images the most important thing of all, but they are limited and are not life itself which is dynamic. In answer to your question I doubt whether there is a 'how', a method, as this would once more become a fixed and limited thing. My own 'method' which is not really a method is through writing.
best Isabel.

                                        
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Posted on: 05/09/2007 13:03:00
Posted by: Wildcard user
Thanks Isabel. I agree, any art-in your case writing- can give an individual an opportunity to express their ideas and prejudices freely and later examine them and alter them appropriately. Perhaps it is the case that not enough people, young and old, are given this opportunity to explore themselves and find out what they really believe-let alone what they can achieve. As an artist working with young people and local schools, it worries me greatly just how much the arts are being sidelined at a time when our young people desperately need to communicate. toby lb

                                                
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Posted on: 05/09/2007 14:20:00
Posted by: Isabel Adonis
There is a general fear of art: have you noticed how art is made safe through stylised language. Creativity is scary because it brings something new into the culture. There is a parallel here of course with the mixed race phenomenum - something new is coming into being and it must be made safe and controlled. Isabel

                                
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Posted on: 05/09/2007 13:19:00
Posted by: Hello999
I think it is very important that we do not make light of how important these images are. Stereotyping is at the root of racism otherwise there would be no point to discrimination. If you thought that all humans beings were fundamentally alike (which they are) then you would have no need to be racist. If you however, incorrectly attribute stereotypes to individuals based on arbitrary biological characteristics e.g. people with a particular skin colour or hair texture are violent then you develop racist thinking.

                                        
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Posted on: 05/09/2007 14:32:00
Posted by: Isabel Adonis
We live in a culture of image and image is at the root of racism. We are all the same and we are all different; but to be the same invariably means that we create an 'other', a different one. The only way out of this is to see the conflictual nature of ourselves and society; but it is hard to see ourselves which is where the art comes in. Isabel

                                                
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Posted on: 05/09/2007 18:48:00
Posted by: toby
i like that thank you